summer league 2017

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summer league 2017

Postby charli » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:08 pm




Any decisions on race I am just conscious the trend is to go for pre entry and I actually am going to get my races in this year.

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby foxontherun » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:08 pm

I've literally just started to compile the SL17 list Charli. The first race is likely to be BDRRL1 at Teversal Grange, poss Tuesday 11 April. Then Notts AC Easter 10k - 17 April, and NRRL1 at Hexgreave Park, 19 April.

After that, the selection will be much as before, including all league races and Notts AAA county champs (except Retford Half - 12 Mar). The Marathon mini-league seemed to go well last year, as did the inclusion of a GP series final table mini-league.

With Easter being later this year, there will be a 4-week gap between the Weston 5 and BDRRL1.

Any sensible suggestions below, while I have time to consider them.

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby charli » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:01 pm

Tara kinder
Castle rock 10k
Tim weatherhall mile - would mean people could have a crack in wilko s challenge
Notts 5miler if it goes ahead
Trent 5

Are all ones I have enjoyed outside of the league's and county races

Others like belper rugby rover but that is a most silly distance

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby elizl » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:02 pm

Hi,
Yes Belper Rover is good, plenty did it last year.
For something similar but shorter, loads of us did Mayday Challenge.
Its pre-entry but doesn't sell out, not too far away....and has plenty of sandwiches and cake.

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby Rach_L_T » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:47 pm

Crich was in last year.

How about something that qualifies people for fell and summer points too?

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby Mario2710 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:54 pm

The Blackrocks or the Ricky race are the popular choice but both run during the week. I will pick 2 weekend race for Rob to choose. Any preference on distance? Or races let me know

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby Woolly » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:28 pm

How about Derby 10 miler?
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Re: summer league 2017

Postby ksarb » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:04 pm

Derby 10k
Erewash RC's 4 mile from Breaston
Robin Hood Half
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Re: summer league 2017

Postby boyband6666 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:52 pm

One I'd like to see:
- Derby 10k
- Erewash 4 mile
- Ramathon
- Belper rugby rover (I haven't dne it in year, but it is a well run race, and a bit longer than the typical summer ones which are circa 5 miles)
- No races that sell out months before the race itself: It creates a burden and barrier to taking part which is kind of the opposite of the aim of it!

Controversial points (x2):

- Given how close the current winter league is, and how close some have been in the past 5 years (4 points separating 1-4), we need to see a limit of 19 races in the league. With 10 to count this means you have to have at least one race where 2 people have raced to get a head to head record, and can't have a tie at the top decided on something arbitrary like miles raced.

- Linked to the point above, and also point in the last LERC email about how all targeting the same series we can do quite well, I think only one of the summer leagues should be in the SL scoring; we have enough runners posting good results in seniors and masters categories to have a real go. The results in the XC have been impressive, and I'll hopefully be back to act as a counter soon in coming out of winter hibernation and recovering from surgery.

When there are SL races on a Tuesday and Wednesday, you aren't sure which one the club's priority is, so just pick one at random or based on easiest location to get to (as negotiating a get out from kids bath times plus a hard effort 2 days in a row can't happen). There is nothing stopping people from doing both leagues (I'll certainly do some of both), but focusing on one as a team we are in with a real shout of a podium spot, or even an outright victory. Set the tone from the start by only including one of the leagues, which also leaves more spots in the 19 for the other races people are suggesting.

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby foxontherun » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:27 am

Full draft list by end of week. Thanks for suggestions and considerations (above). All will be seriously mulled over and responded to.
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Re: summer league 2017

Postby foxontherun » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:29 pm

1. BDL1 - Teversal Grange Tue 11 Apr
2. Notts Easter 10k Mon 17 Apr
3. NRRL1 - Hexgreave Park Wed 19 Apr
4. BDL2 - Ilkeston Rugby Club Tue 9 May
5. NRRL2 - Holme Pierrepont Wed 10 may
6. Carsington 7+ Sun 14 May
7. Sinfin 10k Sun 14 May
8. Beeston AC Trent 5 Wed 24 May
9. The Ramathon Sun 4 Jun
10. BDL3 - Denby Pottery Centre Tue 6 Jun
11. NRRL3 - Redhill RR Wed 14 or 21 Jun
12. Notts 10 mile (County Champs) Fri 16 Jun
13. Grand Prix Series final table Thu 6 Jul Must complete series to score.
14. NRRL4 - Worksop College Wed 12 or 19 Jul
15. Crich Monument Sat 15 Jul
16. BDL4 - Carsington Water Tue 18 Jul
17. The Run (4 mile) late Jul ??
18. Newstead AD 5k (County Champs) Fri 28 Jul
19. NRRL5 - Teversal Grange Wed 2 Aug
20. BDL5 - Shipley CC Tue 8 Aug
21. Castle Rock 10k (County Champs) Fri 4 Aug
22. Belper 30k Sun 20 Aug
23. SL/FL Combo - Black Rocks or Ricky’s? ??? FL Org Mario to decide.
24. Wilne 10k Sun 3 Sep
25. Final full marathon table (incl RHM) Sun 24 Sep To include any full marathon result.
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Re: summer league 2017

Postby foxontherun » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:56 pm

Thanks for input. To answer some of the points raised earlier; The Notts 5 is unlikely to take place due to organisational costs, Derby 10 mile will be in WL1718, Derby 10k comes a bit too early in the year and fills up before the list is drawn up.

Robin Hood Half is very expensive and has been left out in recent years in favour of other halfs. The Newark Half could still be added to go with the Ramathon.

I can't find a correct date for the Tara Kinder, but either that or the Newark Half could go in? 26 races is a good number, but no more.

The Tim Wealthall Miles and/or Richard Belton 5k track races are a bit too "niche" for this. Our keenest runners should still give it/them a try though.

Finally, I was all for the idea of a max of 19 races, thus ensuring that the top two would have to go head-to-head at least once. However, leaving out well-established and popular local races, and therefore not showing that support to fellow clubs was hard to justify when we have systems in place to decide who wins in the event of a tie. The recent WL Senior Men's table demonstrates this.
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Re: summer league 2017

Postby creakinees » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:12 pm

Tara Kinder is 14 July this year.

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby Rach_L_T » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:36 pm

Please can someone remind me, did we decide at the AGM it's 10 to count? (sorry, I can't fine the minutes)

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Re: summer league 2017

Postby FraserT » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:59 pm

I'm disappointed that neither of the two races I have entered (Derby 10k and Notts half) are in this league but I understand the logic. I would have appreciate that guidance in January and perhaps would have chosen accordingly but there's always next year.
Thanks for the list I will use this as my guide from now on.


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